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"
Mmm
?
Ben
,
have
you
seen
any
of
the
proposals
to
attempt
a
beach
head
on
Jupiter
?
"
"
Yes
,
but
-
Well
,
nothing
has
ever
gotten
beyond
the
dream
stage
.
It
isn
’
t
practical
.
"
"
Space
flight
wasn
’
t
practical
less
than
a
century
ago
.
Go
back
in
the
files
and
see
what
your
own
colleagues
said
about
it
–
oh
,
say
about
1940
.
These
Jupiter
proposals
are
,
at
best
,
no
farther
than
drawing
board
–
but
the
engineers
working
on
them
are
quite
serious
.
They
think
that
,
by
using
all
that
we
’
ve
learned
from
deep
ocean
exploration
,
plus
equipping
men
with
powered
suits
in
which
to
float
,
it
should
be
possible
to
put
human
beings
on
Jupiter
.
And
don
’
t
think
for
a
moment
that
the
Martians
are
any
less
clever
than
we
are
.
You
should
see
their
cities
.
"
"
Uh
-
"
said
Caxton
.
"
Okay
,
I
’
ll
shut
up
.
I
still
don
’
t
see
why
they
would
bother
.
"
"
Captain
?
"
"
Yes
,
Jubal
?
"
"
I
see
another
objection
–
a
cultural
one
.
You
know
the
rough
division
of
cultures
into
‘
Apollonian
’
and
‘
Dionysian
.
’
"
"
I
know
in
general
what
you
mean
.
"
"
Well
,
it
seems
to
me
that
even
the
Zuni
culture
would
be
called
‘
Dionysian
’
on
Mars
.
Of
course
,
you
’
ve
been
there
and
I
haven
’
t
–
but
I
’
ve
been
talking
steadily
with
Mike
.
That
boy
was
raised
in
an
extremely
Apollonian
culture
–
and
such
cultures
are
not
aggressive
.
"
"
Mmm
?
I
see
your
point
–
but
I
wouldn
’
t
count
on
it
.
"
